I'm on a mix of la 40 and 20 as well as prescribed 5-10mg as needed of ir. Dexmethylphenidate (Focalin) is a man-made stimulant that is derived from methylphenidate (which is marketed under brand names such as Ritalin, Concerta, Metadate, and others). Thank you for your response. I work in a creative industry and while I excel at high level creative thinking/expression I really struggle with practical applications and general organisational/admin tasks (esp having to switch between creative and practical), which is an issue with career progression as these tasks are a big part of most roles, even for a creative, and especially when you start moving into more senior positions. Ritalin made me anti social.. concerta made me have short term memory loss, sucks when you study. I could not take Ritalin..or even the generic because it gave me severe headaches. Total crap. Because it is extended release its half life is longer than Ritalin. I've tried just about every medication there is out there, and between ritalin or concerta I always go with ritalin considering my current lifestyle. Kia ora and welcome to /r/NewZealand, the official subreddit for Aotearoa / New Zealand. I have trouble handling my emotions and just ruins my day. Sleep deprivation definitely isn’t an issue - I sleep a lot and am generally always tired, which the psych who diagnosed me thought was an adhd thing... something about using too much energy just to function? Even 5mg ritalin was making me feel happier, energetic, brave. It doesn't effect anything else, though. On plain ritalin, that was 4-5 times a day. Drugs affect every one differently and I would honestly reccomend trying both before you make a final decision. This creates more hills and valleys in your blood level. I think that because adhd meds are immediately acting (as opposed to something like antidepressants which need to accumulate) it’s pretty normal to have immediate side effects. Concerta is an extended-release form version of methylphenidate. Login in to Reply; Leave a Reply Cancel reply. Adderall, Vyvanse, Ritalin, Concerta, and other excitants are used to cure ADHD.In this article, we will cover the details of these both medications and will let you know about their key differences, their prices, and we will try to find an answer to the question that which of these two are more powerful in comparison, as both of these stimulants are psychostimulants. Concerta is the same medication, so you will get the same results and side effects - unless you were reacting to the filler ingredients, or the dosage. Drugs.com provides accurate and independent information on more than 24,000 prescription drugs, over-the-counter medicines and natural products. main issue with ritalin la was the comedown after 4-5 hours which is pretty bad, so hopefully concerta is better. you were absolutely right haha. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. I've recently made the move to freelancing and while it's been amazing for my wellbeing and productivity, getting work consistently requires a lot of self-motivation and initiative, which anyone with ADHD knows can often be a struggle! Headaches for me seemed to be related to eating habits and hydration, could also be a symptom of too much ritalin (seriously less is more) as well as I suspect low blood sugar. In a world of comfort food and oversize portions, weight loss can be a constant battle. 4 hours. Can you elaborate on the drowsiness you experienced from Ritalin LA? My issue is also the downslope of ritalin products. hey which one is better modafinil or ritalin for studying ?? A place where people with ADHD and their loved ones can interact with each other exchanging stories, struggles, and non-medication strategies. Concerta should be used as a part of a total treatment program for ADHD that may include counseling or other therapies. Same here. Mean AUC((0-8)) change from pre-dose for Ritalin LA was 183 compared with 100 for Concerta 18mg (p = 0.144), and 117 for Concerta 36mg (p = 0.245). Some are serious. Right now I take 72 mg of Concerta (two 36 pills) a day. 1 Ritalin 5mg costs approximately $75 for 100 tablets (75 cents per tablet) increasing to $108.87 for 60 tablets for the 20mg dose ($1.80 per tablet). And both exist as SA and LA versions, as well, so that’s not a distinguishing factor. Dehydration definitely makes sense. I would really like to give medication a decent go this time and was wondering about people's experiences with Ritalin LA vs Concerta? I also thought this time freelancing would be a good opportunity to try meds again as I can work around any side effects from home, rather than previously when I was in an office and having to deal with others all day. i decided to be really stupid and started increasing my dose by myself, id take 90mg, 100mg , 120mg- highest was 180mg. If I take two doses too closely, it can trigger anxiety, but thankfully it only lasts an hour at most. I am grumpy and get frustrated easily. Drowsiness, related to poor sleep for me but sometimes inexplicable. Safety: One patient from each treatment group experienced a single mild adverse event that included abdominal pain, nausea, and dyspnea. Everytime I take Ritalin the first hour is incredible, I feel a borderline coke high. Concerta is a federally controlled substance (CII) because it can be abused or lead to dependence. Press J to jump to the feed. I like Concerta because of its OROS (Osmotic [Controlled] Release Oral [Delivery] System)). What's your lifestyle like in relation eating/water/sleep/exercise? But I found the biggest side effect of the Ritalin is how it effects my mood. So I keep some extra in my purse just in case. Methylphenidate is also the drug that manufacturers use in Ritalin. Since these popular medications are made from the same chemical compound, they both act similarly they do not cure ADHD, but they can increase focus and reduce impulsiveness and hyperactivity. 72mg is high the highest dose available in my country is 36 :/ Yeah was in a proper depressed state when the ritalin wore off. The dosage will hit you in a different way though, which can change how they affect you. I am very sensitive to the slope of the medication rather than the overall level. also made me feel like a robot. The temptation to use medications or supplements to boost weight loss is often great, but so are the health risks. The one with the OROS system is the original and is manufactured by Watson. I feel like I can be the best me I can. level 1 The main differences are in the length of effectiveness, the strength, and the dosage. adderall is where its at! I definitely find that I’m a lot more energise after excercising; it’s mental tasks and social things that really drain me. Vyvanse is the brand name of lisdexamfetamine (LDX). I can focus and study, but I never see anything positively. Concerta has always been the brand I go back to using. Other brands of methylphenidate include Aptensio XR, Concerta, Daytrana, Metadate, Quillichew and Qullivant. Weekly threads to plan and notice the positive in our lives. Oh and I forgot...not all Conterta is the same. Makes me feel on edge for the all duration. I have a fast metabolism so can that affect duration? After you take the pill it has a permeable outside covering. I am with you on the Concerta. Man I'm so insanely jealous of you. The side-effects should be fairly similar. I had a Ritalin script and I just hated it, and that's weird considering I'm such an Adderall junkie. I don't know if that helps you at all, but that is my experience with both of those. I've read reports from different people about the differences between ritalin and concerta, mainly speaking about the side effects. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. level 2 I'm sleepier on ritalin but it's usually existing sleep deprivation showing itself. I have mild to medium ADHD (not like there is a scale or anything) but I have been on Concerta for a long time. You can also take it after sleeping late and not fear sleeplessness later on. Ritalin works for me now because I can dial in the dose and times I need it. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Methylphenidate is the active ingredient in two major drugs used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD): Ritalin and Concerta. Thanks heaps for your reply! The difference between Concerta and Ritalin is how long the medication lasts in the … adderall: still a bit robot like but more my self. Ritalin is generally flatter than Concerta (it depends on what Release type you take but still always flatter), so you’re on a consistentish dose until it starts wearing off. It takes effect quickly, and wears off quickly. Concerta gives you one really high peak that then wears off over the next few hours, Ritalin LA gives you a long flat peak (basically). Me....I am beyond severe. Over a million users here say they 'feel at home' and 'finally found a place where people understand them'. Concerta vs. Adderall Share on Pinterest Adderall may benefit adults with ADHD more than Concerta. The basic difference between Concerta and Ritalin is in the way the methylphenidate is released and how long the individual needs to wait before taking the drug again. Had my first one this morning - night and day compared to my experience with Ritalin LA. This material is provided for educational purposes only and is not intended for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. I wonder why the physician switched from a pill to Quillivant. I like ritalin because the half life is only about 2 hours, so you can take it in the morning and still have time to get fucked up without fear of mixing drugs later in the night. g. Andrea. With regular Ritalin (not XR) I can adjust the dose. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://images.slideplayer.com/2/735583/slides/slide_38.jpg. I stagger the pills an hour apart: there are still peaks and valleys in the time release and the staggered pills offset that. 15 hours. A bummer because the only amphetime- based med here is Dexedrine, which I’ve actually had really good experiences with but can’t get prescribed due to being short acting/ possibly addictive, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Concerta is a brand name for methylphenidate HCl. http://images.slideplayer.com/2/735583/slides/slide_38.jpg. Concerta gives you one really high peak that then wears off over the next few hours, Ritalin LA gives you a long flat peak (basically). Looking through your post history (like a stalker!) Ritalin had the same effect on me. Will not affect duration of concerta dose as others have said tho. However, since diagnosis, therapy, and meds...all that is gone. Can only imagine how bad it would be for higher doses. You need to majorly up the water intake on meds. Everyone responds differently to medicine, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Healthwise: 29 year old female, exercise at least every other day, eat well, probably drink too much due to social anxiety, which my psych thinks comes directly from ADHD (difficulty processing and verbalising thoughts makes it really hard to "stay in" conversations with others). However, I found Concerta to be too powerful, to the point where I almost appeared bipolar and had to take a nutritional supplement because I wasn't eating enough. *Preview these CoreBrain Academy "ADHD" Coursework* details:- ADHD101 - 55 lessons + coaching: How to measure, target , & treat brain/biomedical realities. It’s available as a tablet and lasts about 12 hours. If Ritalin worked well for him, the physician could have suggested a longer-acting Ritalin (MPH) pill such as Ritalin LA or Concerta. I have also always found it difficult to work in a 9-5 office setting and have a pattern of "managing" (or even doing really well) for the first few months before starting to lose interest and finding it increasingly hard to cope. Focalin was first approved in 2001, although an extended-release form was not approved until 2005. Started concerta today, I'll let you know OP :P On 18 mg, didn't like ritalin LA- could control the headaches with l-theanine, couldn't manage delayed sleep phase onset. Ir is sudden on and off but it's very useful for controlling when I need to head out to drive or focus but without lasting 7-9h, or if I need a reduced dose so it might pay to ask the doc or specialist about that. They are literally the same thing, just different brand names. Adderall and Concerta are prescription medications sometimes used off-label as weight-loss aids. I can focus on teaching my class...boy but forget my dose in the morning...it is not a pretty sight. Looking at Concerta vs. Adderall, note that both Concerta and Ritalin drugs use the same active ingredient — methylphenidate. I have taken Concerta...brand for the past 15 years. It also wears off much more quickly than Concerta, which is a long-acting drug with lo… I have not had the issues with it as I did with Ritalin. I see you’re quite knowledgeable on the subject so would be interested on your take re: the tiredness, Concerta gives you one really high peak that then wears off over the next few hours, Ritalin LA gives you a long flat peak, Maybe you got it backwards? It suppresses my appetite, but I have learned to make myself eat when I know I should. But everyone is different. This material is provided for educational purposes only and is not intended for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Cute_red_head....there is definitely a scale....or continuum of ADHD from slight.with the ability to function in daily life...to severe...has severe trouble in all aspects of life. Definitely agree that I need to stick with them! Concerta and Adderall share many potential side effects. March 7, 2016 at 8:01 am. They tried so slip another generics Concerta on me...manufactured by Mallinkrodt. Concerta is just a long release version of Ritalin. What I find is creativity while on ritalin or the generics is a bit nixed while focus has improved. It comes in doses of 18, 27, 36, and 54 milligrams. Concerta. Concerta 36 mg Other doses: (Ritalin = Concerta) 5 mg = 18 mg 15 mg = 54 mg Novel in its distribution without bimodal peaks methylphenidate patch (Daytrana) 10 mg “Nominal” or goal dose, since the actual amount of MPH in the patch reflects TDD rather than sustained concentration. I was diagnosed about four years ago (combined type but leaning toward innattentive) and was put on Ritalin LA, but ended up stopping after a week as I couldn't afford the side effects (headaches, drowsiness, irritability) in the job I was in at the time. Then by hour 2 / 3 I start feeling anxious, and the stimulation slowly disappears while the anxiety slowly increases. 2. Selling or giving away Concerta may harm others, and is against the law. I've been on both. do you have the option of adderall, dexedrine or vyvanse? You probably need to stick with it for a bit longer. 3. When taken, the methylphenidate is released slowly over time, and it is active for 10–12 hours. This is the 3rd day, everything is the same. At the time I think I just thought I maybe wasn’t adhd because they didn’t work straight away and made me feel poo but having spoken to friends that have been on them for years they said that it definitely takes a bit of time to get over side effects, Yeah you can’t get vyvanse here! Every now and then we will adjust the medicine, some times getting shorter lasting dosages, an often we have to try different brands. The side-effects should be fairly similar. I found I seemed more irritable when I started meds, but it was usually just being able to recognise annoyance/anger rather than just being EMOTIONS?!shutdownbrain. I have really bad anxiety (GAD) and Concerta is really bad. Methylphenidate: This includes: (Ritalin, Concerta, Focalin) Methylphenidate is shorter-acting and less complex stimulant variant, it is primarily a dopamine reuptake inhibitor. And I was feeling concentrated. Re concerta vs la, I didn't find concerta as effective but it was smooth compared to the instant release tablets and had a definitive peak to it which could be ideal for your work place. The winner is the worst of each category and the winner will be the one who wins the most categories. It was giving me self esteem and I was willing to work and I was able to finish what I started. I find it hard to believe all those symptoms presented after only one week of use. well, Ritalin, at least, is supposed to do different things to someone who has ADD than to someone who does not, (I mean, personally, I can sleep while taking the stuff) but for me, exercise and diet help, but not 1/10th as much as the drugs. interesting. Dexmethylphenidate is the more active part of methylphenidate, which is why Focalin is considered twice as strong, on a mg for mg basis, as drugs such as Ritalin and Concerta. Learn more about how they work, the side effects they can cause, and other differences. Also interested to hear how long your side effects lasted before settling down? I am (cautiously) very very stoked with its effect, thank you! As water from your stomach enters the pill that pressure releases the drug. You must be logged in to post a comment. I feel great when it is working and damn near suicidal when it is not. The two substances, Ritalin and meth will go head to head for three rounds based on: health effects, insidiousness and legality, and withdrawal. It helped me a lot to do plans and obey them. The dosage will hit you in a different way though, which can change how they affect you. I can focus and do my school work, as well as it really helps me with my social filter (so I don't say stupid stuff I never ment to blurt out). started on ritalin, changed to concerta... now on adderall. Although they are both stimulants and work in a similar way, Concerta … My doctor won't prescribe any short acting meds as they feel the peaks and troughs will be worse for side effects. I tried Adderall and felt good but acted like a mean jerk. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. vyvanse vs concerta i used to be prescribed 70mg vyvanse; one 60mg and one 10mg to take together once a day. (Note, my experience has been that exercise /and/ the drugs work much better than the drugs by themselves.) Drugs.com provides accurate and independent information on more than 24,000 prescription drugs, over-the-counter medicines and natural products. Concerta and Ritalin share the same active ingredient. Headaches and drowsiness sound like dehydration, which is an issue you will have with any stimulant. Each pill...they look like little barrels...has a hole in one end. Ritalin is the immediate-release form of methylphenidate, whereas Concerta is the extended-release form of the drug.. Methylphenidate is classified as a central nervous system stimulant or psychostimulant medication. I have tried the Ritalin, but I honestly don't like it. Concerta is just a long release version of Ritalin. Concerta has a long, steady release pattern, while the short-acting Ritalin releases more quickly and the level drops between doses. You need to work with your doctor or psychiatrist to determine what is best for your needs. Data sources include IBM Watson Micromedex (updated 2 Feb 2021), Cerner Multum™ (updated 3 Feb 2021), … My question is: for someone that has slight ADHD and problems with studying sometimes, which of the two is recommended? Adhansia XR, Aptensio XR, Concerta, Cotempla XR-ODT, Daytrana, Jornay PM, Metadate CD, Methylin, Methylin ER, QuilliChew ER, Quillivant XR, Relexxii, Ritalin, Ritalin LA View more: Provigil: Half Life The half-life of a drug is the time taken for the plasma concentration of a drug to reduce to half its original value. If you don't drink, do other drugs, and have pretty much the same routine every day concerta can be fine, but if you get drunk the same day you took concerta you'll wake up feeling like a pile of poo. Concerta is timed so it’s low then very high then halves as it wears off which can be a pretty big crash. Please don't accept what you read here, talk to your GP. *See chart below However, Ritalin is a short-acting stimulant that boosts focus and attention quickly. Data sources include IBM Watson Micromedex (updated 2 Feb 2021), Cerner Multum™ (updated 3 Feb 2021), … Keep Concerta in a safe place to prevent misuse and abuse. Good luck with the ADHD, I'm gonna go look at squirrels. Why the Ritalin-Concerta comparison, for instance? Concerta, for example, only comes in extended-release formulas while the other drug has extended and instant release options. Let’s see who comes out on top in today’s main event, RITALIN vs. METH! I had hoped the Ritalin would help with this but from memory it just made me feel more drowsy? looking for advice from any r/nz folk with ADHD. My side effect with both were sleeping pattern changes, but now only have a suppressed appetite on Ritalin. 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